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South Hills Used-To-Be’s

We all know that Pittsburghers like to give directions based on landmarks. We especially enjoy using old references to places that no longer exist. For example:

Typical direction giver: “To get to Primanti’s by The Galleria, you go down 19 towards town. Pass the bowling alley on the right. And you remember where the Ground Round was? They had good popcorn! It used to be on your left … go past that through the light. After the light you’ll be passing by the old BP.”

Typical direction recipient: “The BP? Are you talking about where Dunkin Donuts is now?”

Typical direction giver: “Yes. Right across from where the Roth Carpet used to be. There’s a Fresh Market there now.”

And the directions continue …

Thinking of this takes me back to all of the South Hills “Used-to-Be’s.” Time is a professional ninja … slipping by like phantom sand in a fine crystal hourglass. We don’t even realize how much has changed until we look back.

Let’s rewind to my high school years … 25 years ago. The time I’m mentally lodged in, pretending I’m not a middle aged-woman. (My daughter may disagree but I still think I’m pretty cool cruising the mall in my flannel shirt and ripped-up jeans.)

I spent my weekends going to Village Square Mall. One weekend, I scored a brilliant blue tie-dye shirt at that mall. (Is it bad that I still have that shirt?) Now I drive by and see Kohl’s, Burlington and Home Depot there. Back then, there was no need for a Home Depot. Busy Beaver was across from Sears at South Hills Village Mall; ready to sell whatever lumber someone needed for their weekend project.

Four teenagers stand outside Phar-Mor pharmacy.
My friend group outside Phar-Mor.

Walgreens wasn’t a destination at the time. Instead, people flocked to Phar-Mor and would shop around for random stuff regardless if they had a prescription to fill. That Phar-Mor was adjacent to what we now know as the Market District Giant Eagle.

I remember going there homecoming night with my party. We perused Phar-Mor’s aisles, giggling at the random trinkets displayed on the end caps. I scored a black-haired troll doll sporting a Penguins T-shirt there once. I haven’t seen that little troll guy since 1998. His plastic potbelly protruding from the shrunken tee always cracked me up.

That same night we ate at Houlihan’s for our fancy homecoming dinner. This was before the restaurant settled in at The Galleria. It was located where the Walgreens now resides on Fort Couch Road. I recall that we upgraded from Friday’s that night because Houlihan’s staff wore dark clothing instead of oversized pins tacked to red suspenders.

Bringing all these memories to the surface paints a smile on my face. To me, it’s as clear as when I was 16. These memories summon up vivid recollections of the sights, smells and feelings of those not-forgotten places.

I bet I’ve barely scratched the surface of what was vs. what is around here. I wonder what memories everyone has of when they’d frequent places in the South Hills. Did you buy a critter at the Woolworth’s in the mall? Was it following a quick meal in their diner? Who scored a fancy fur coat at the Gimbels back in the day? I’d love to hear of the other ‘once were’s’ you’ve experienced the South Hills, so please comment below!

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    We got our first dog at Animal Crackers in Village Square. Every time I tell the story I have to preface it with “Do you remember when that was an indoor mall?” Some of your memories I’d forgotten (Houlihans, Roth Carpet), but I still miss the Ground Round! And do you remember when Olive Garden was Grisante’s? Time marches on and the only thing that stays the same is change.

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    Great story that should continue.

    I recall having a nice lunch at the Kaufmann’s South Hills Tic-Toc (where the Galleria is).

    And the ultimate in childhood entertainment – Bimbo’s for pizza and a pie in the face if it was your birthday. It was located where Primanti’s now is.

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    Horne’s uptown Mt. Lebanon, papa GoGo’s in the mall, Spencer’s, NRM

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    Dudt’s bakery where cvs now exists on Cochran Road .they had a terrific “Ice Box Cake “.that probably was mid 1970’s or Isaly’s on Beverly or uptown on Washington Rd across from Jos Horne department store which is now an optical business and A Pizza shop .

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    Before Houlihan’s was the Joshua Tree at one corner of Washington and Fort Couch and, long ago, was the MOO Shoppe where the CVS is now. Gammon’s was across the street where the banks are now (which was before they moved to the “lowlands” on McMurray Road, Gammon’s became The Shenandoah before it became Outback Steak House.) There used to be a Par 3, 9-hole golf course where the hotel is now; St. Thomas More was a small metal-clad church and, of course, across the street was the sheep grazing pasture of Gilfillan’s farm. The world as we knew it used to end at Fort Couch and Washington Roads.

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    Hills! Who could forget the smell of popcorn and hot dogs on the roller rack as you entered Hills Dept Store on the lower level of Village Square Mall (now Home Depot). Or Toys R Us. The ponds inside South Hills Village that homed ducks. Foodland where PetCo now resides on Ft Couch Road. The Potato Patch inside the mall….Telaropa inside the mall. So many “once were’s” with great memories to coincide. Great article, Cathy!

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      Can I get a little help on that? I remember being a little kid and seeing something called Builders Square which was a home improvement store and Home Depot’s competition. I think we entered it through a driveway off of Fort couch road across from South Hills village. Where was that and what is that now? Thanks!

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    Buying candy at KK’s in Castle Shannon!

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      Yes!!!I’ve that memory. First boyfriend lived on Baldwin Street next to KK

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    Some things that are not there anymore:
    I remember having a milk shake at the Moo Shop at the corner of Fort Couch and Rt 19. They had a sign with a cow who had huge googly eyes.
    I also had dinner many times at the Joshua Tree where Walgreen’s is located today.
    My parents shopped at Foodland where the sport card store is today on Highland Rd.

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      Jeff,
      It’s your old neighbor Greg Smith.
      I was just thinking about the Moo Shop. Hope you are well. Glad we’re both alive!

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    I remember driving all the way out Route 19 towards Washington PA to have a special dinner at Red Bull Inn. I seemed so far away. It is not there anymore and traveling out to shop in Washington, PA, doesn’t seem that far anymore, either.

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    I moved into my house a stones throw away from all of these above mentioned places many years ago 1966. Yes I remember them well. South Hills Village was just finished being built. My kids would cut through the woods near the nursing home now to go to the village passing where Giant Eagle is now and coming up behind what what the old hotel. There was no Village Square as it is today. Oh what memories this article brought back and also made me realize how old I’m getting.

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      C’mon folks, lets crank it back a bit farther and remember the Hot Shoppe, located at ft couch and ft 19.(currently Walgreens). Back in the 60’s and 70’s, it was always a tossup to decide which one to eat at, either there or at the Moo Shop. Hot Shoppe featured Pappy’s fried chicken and boy was it good! Great times, great memories!

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        Oh boy. The Hot Shoppe. I remember it well. Loved their menu. They use to have a few along the turnpike test areas in late 60’s/early 70’s.
        Also there was a great Mexican place right in the same vicinity in early 80’s. Can’t recall the name. Great salsa @ chips. Do u recall?

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          Chi Chi’s… it was right next to the Washingtonian Apartments. I lived there and worked at Chi Chi’s.

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          was it Casa Lupita?

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        Let’s go back a little further and have dinner at Gammons restaurant.

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    There used to be a restaurant off of 19 before the Galleria, it was an old house I believe. Very fancy, does anyone remember the name?

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      Diane-
      The Living Room?

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      Bimbos

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      Steak and Ale

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    I think I know the tall guy on the right in the phar/more photo. I graduated st clair in ‘96. I think he was in my class. I used to get comix , video games nags and nudie mags at the news stand at station square. I also got a tie blue dyed shirt with a mushroom on it, from the hippie stand upstairs:) anyone remember the Rueben and pickle from Ernies at the mall?

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      Loved the Rubens at Ernie’s. I also loved the Pup A Go Go next door. Chargrilled burgers and dogs were amazing, prices were great, deli items at Ernie’s very good. I ate their s lot in late 70’s early 80’s, loved Ernie’s Esq on rte 19 in peters Twp. Actually worked there for a short time, so many good memories of many places around the south hills Does anyone know of any websites or blogs where people share such info?

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    Was there a baked potato spot to eat at in the food court ever & if so what was the name of it?

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    Does anyone remember name of restaurant/bar that was in South Hills Village. People threw their peanut shells on floor. Back in 70s. On a corner near entrance to mall.
    Thanks in advance

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      Judy
      That was The Grog Shop. It was owned by Stouffers that had the restaurant upstairs across from WPnC bank

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      I remember Ground Round did that down where levin Mattress I think it by the Galleria

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    Does anyone remember what restaurants were in the building that the Olive Garden is now in? I think one was a Mexican restaurant and the other might have been Italian. I don[t think either one was a chain. A memory is such a terrible things to lose….Anyone that can remember, please respond

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      Barry – I ended up here looking for the name of the Mexican restaurant. With some help from my family, we identified it as Casa Lupita.

      Some further Googling seems to confirm. Below is from an April 1987 page of the Pittsburgh Press (typos are from newspapers-dot-com OCR conversion). The address in the text is the address for where the Olive Garden is now.

      Sunday Brunch: An Unlimited Feast. Casa Lupila’s Sunday Brunch is an unlimited international buffet. It’s fresh fruits and juices, rich pastries, fluffy omelettes, delicate crepes and flaky waffles made to order and Mexican specialties like Chilaquilles. It’s all you can eat and anything you could want. Every Sunday from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Come join us. Adults, $7.95.. Seniors 60 plus, $6.95. 5-12, $3.95. Under five, Free. Casa Lupita Mexican Restaurant Bar 6000 Oxford Drive, At the Village Square Mall, Bethel Park 835-4200

      P.S. Someone had the name of the Italian restaurant (Grisante’s) in one of the older comments on this article.

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      Casa Lupita was the Mexican

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    Hot Shoppes Jr. was also at Fort Couch and 19. I remember a fizzy orange drink there.

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    The Odd Chair Playhouse was wonderful. It was in the parking lot of the original South Hills Village. Then they expanded and knocked it down. Awesome kids playhouse.

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      Oh ya, I ate the Reuben at Ernies.

      And… I shopped at “A Shop Called East” near the bird cages at SHV.

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    Wesley
    Odd Chair was in the parking lot behind the Sheraton. Worked there the summer of my freshman year at BPHS . Saw Hair there! Nude scene and all!! LOL

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    I see a few people here around my age group here. No one has mentioned so many places I remember in SHV. What about Castro Convertibles, A Shop Called East, B & G’s Restaurant, Sun Drugs that also had a restaurant inside, Ernie’s Deli, Stouffer’s Restaurant, No Name, Misc., Maggie’s, Foxmoor, Baker’s Shoes, the first and best Lerner’s, Miller’s, Harvest House, Woolworth’s 5 & 10 and their restaurant? What about the talking parrot, Eric, that entertained everyone in the two-story bird cage in the center of the mall, and that huge oil lamp, also in the center? Then at the back behind Sear’s, the Giant Eagle and I think Kroger’s were located? I can go on and on and on.

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    I remember the two story bird cage and the hug oil lamp. When I was very young, I liked going over the
    bridge and throwing pennies in the water. Also, I loved where you could get pictures taken at the
    photography boat. My grandfather worked at a church and the church was given one of the old boats for the kids to play on. I played on it. When I was 8 or 9, my most favorite memory is my grandfather gave me money and I bought at Sears a blue 45 record case, The 45 records of Dancing Queen and Little Rich Girl. I did not even know the songs. Lol. I picked them out by the titles. I love both of the songs to this day. I loved going into Woolworths and explore. As a teenager, I loved Foxmoor, No Name, Baker’s Shoes, Lerners, Spencers. I remember Sun Drugs and Pharmor.

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    What was the name of the Japanese steakhouse over by Virginia manor in Greentree?

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      The Samurai

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        now is Benihana

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    So glad I found this post and all these memories.
    Here are some I remember as I was reading through all those posted there.
    I remember Mitchell’s corner and the Living Room cocktail restaurant. Also the small but gear filled outdoor store that sold all kinds of outdoor stuff.
    In the mall I remember the hot dog and chargrilled burger place on the upper level between Sears & Hornes. What was its name.
    Also, on the lower level by the NRM there was an Asian gift shop with candles and all kinds of stuff you never knew you needed. I bought many Xmas gifts here for my sisters. What was the name.
    Attended many movies at Village Theatre when it was still one big screen and then later. Disney films, Beatles films, Lawrence of Arabia, etc, what a great theatre.
    I remember Village Square Mall when it was enclosed. The Pharmor by VSM was a revelation. So huge. We always joked it was called PharMor because you spent far more than you intended. I remember eating a Woolworth’s lunch counter with its great specials shopping for school clothes at Sears. With so many kids my Dad loved Sears. The smell of roasting nuts from the candy counter. I remember the old Steak & Ale and ChiChi’s as you headed down Wash Rd toward Kaufmanns/Galleria. What was the Mexican restaurant tucked next to the old Sheraton hotel called. It was behind edge of Vilage Sq Mall.
    I loved Gimbels. One of my sisters worked there and would get me her discoun. Bought Levi’s, sport shirts, sweaters etc from there. There was a barber on the lower level of mall near Gimbels where I would get haircuts. Also s great ice cream shop. Behind the mall in a strip was an A&P that my dad loved shopping at. Also there was a store there, the Village News, where you could get magazines, newspapers, candy and other stuff. Loved going there, There was one of the first video game arcades I ever went to located by the entrance of mall upstairs near hornes. It far from the Sears auto Ctr. I loved the arcade. Learned to play pinball & early video games there. I remember getting my first real “pro” camera at the Ritz camera store in the mall. A Nikon. If anyone knows any of the answers to any of my questions or have any memories you’d like to share email me.
    devmiller70@gmail.com

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      World Baazar was the store with all the stuff you didn’t need including papason chairs! I worked there in high school in the 80’s

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    Just a time shot that some of you here will remember! In the late 70’s I worked at Radio Shack in the Horne’s court. It was the winter of ’78 with all the blizzards. It was Christmas time and we were packed. Shoppers shoulder to shoulder! I guy comes in the front of the store (Totally open end) and sees a friend towards the back of the store. The conversation went like this:

    Bob: Hey Tom!
    Tom: Hey Bob!
    Bob: Tom, did you hear what the weatherman just said?

    At that instant the entire store became a scene out of an old E.F. Hutton commercial. Everyone stopped talking and just froze in place. You could see heads tilt slightly to lock in to what the two were about to say.

    Tom: What did he say?

    Bob: There’s a huge storm on the way and it’s supposed to be her in about an hour or so!

    At that instant, EVERY customer put down what ever they were looking at and left immediately! Customers finished their purchases and took off! In about three minutes the only ones left in the store were us employees!

    That was a time to remember!

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    Remember This End Up @ Village Sq? Parents bought me pine family room furniture there in mid-80’s.
    Village Sq also had a Thrift Drug that featured a JC Penney catalog service.

    In the 60’s, Mom bought my Catholic school mandatory white dress shirts @ SHV Sears & Roebuck (instead of her driving to Northside Sears–yes, Mom drove). We stopped @ the MOOO for the best milkshakes (unless we had a quick bite @ Woolworths’s counter–remember the metal electric in/out gate?)

    Dad loved “special dinners” at Red Lobster near Abbeyville Rd (before traffic signal installed–YIKES).

    Agree that Dudt’s Bakery (Cochran, near Cedar Blvd) was THE place for milestone cakes in our family.

    Reminiscence is so therapeutic…

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      😀

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    Pasta Too, the little spaghetti joint which was easier to take out than eat in as there was only about 6 small tables(could be wrong on the number getting old ) before they moved into the former Eat n Park (again could be wrong,,) near South Park’s Entrance at 88 and South Park rd. Food still good but ambience not the same…

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    Chi Chi’s… it was right next to the Washingtonian Apartments. I lived there and worked at Chi Chi’s.

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    Does anyone remember the name of the fancy restaurant that was at the intersection of Greentree and Cochran Road?

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      The Colony.

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    Who remembers the hot dog shop on my. Lebanon blvd? It’s now an ice cream shop next to a car wash.

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      Burg and dog in

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    My Grandma used to work at SHV Horne’s. When I was a kid, and my Mom couldn’t find a babysitter for me, she would drop me off at SHV when Grandma was working with instructions to check in with her once an hour. And then, when Grandma had her lunch break, we would get hot dogs together at Pup-a-Go-Go. She taught me to save the ends of the hot dog buns so I could go feed the ducks when the lunch break was over.

    Speaking of SHV wildlife back in the day. My friend got his head stuck in between the second level balusters because he was talking with Eric the Parrot. They had to call maintenance to get him out (my friend, not Eric).

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    Minetties Pizza right before Bowling City was awesome. Also loved Bimbos as a kid. Steak and Ale/Joshua Tree were always a nice treat. They had great salad bars. Is the movie theater still across from the hotel by south hills village?

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      yes the movie theater is still there. I remember Elbys/big boys? where Primantis is no2w

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    I was playing in a road band that worked in this area in 1975. We played at a supper club on US 19 called The Anthony House. We played 6 nights and stayed at The Locust Grove Motel. The club was great, the audience was awesome, we had a lot of fun there. We were a dance band and the audience loved to dance. There was another Anthony House on our circuit in Toledo Ohio. It was pretty much the same motif. People dressed for dinner and the band started at 9.
    It was a favorite place yo play. The Locust Grove wasn’t a particular favorite but it was clean, the managers were really nice people, and they put up with us. I think we took up 4 rooms for a week, four times a year. Good Memories.

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      Do you remember who owned the Anthony House? I think it was one of the Steeler coaches at that time!

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        I don’t recall the owners but both clubs were of the same Sports bar in the daytime design. The waitress’s wore referee type black striped shirts in both clubs. The managers at the Toledo club was Greg Peck and his assistant was Sam (something). I believe the same group owned the “Coral Gables” Dance clubs in Detroit.

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    So glad I clicked on this! Love getting into my way back machine and trying to test myself to see just how old I really am (and how Swiss cheesed my brain has gotten).

    Moved to USC from Bethel Park for 2nd grade at Eisenhower Elementary, on Ft. Couch Rd., back in the early 60’s. I live in Delaware now (flat as a billiard table) so most of my childhood memories from there are of walking everywhere, uphill both ways of course! lol

    Went to Faith Lutheran Church, on Bartley Rd. right off of Highland. Always loved that place as a kid, especially at Xmas when they’d festoon the inside with fresh greens, and the whole township did a candelaria thing with bags of sand with candles in them along the road sides. You could see all across “Fertile Valley” (so named ‘cuz it was populated with lots of good Catholics with lots of kids in the smallest little pre-war bungalows you ever saw) from where the church sits, and you could see the church for miles, which was also pretty cool for a problem child of the 60’s. Very reassuring. Would go to church with some of my Catholic friends at St. Thomas Moore, and another down toward Bridgeville, but other than our little church on the hill, I was always awed by the big (to me then) Presbyterian I think it was, church further down on Rt. 19 across from SHV.

    I can’t remember what night or nights of the week it was, but I remember when the wind was just right, we could hear the demolition derby races at Heidelberg Raceway I think it was.

    We used to cut church and sneak over to Aljoe’s Pharmacy after Sunday school to buy penny candy and Mad or Cracked Magazine, and then try to hide them in our suit coats to get them in the house. Aljoe’s was in a small triangular 2-story building on the corner of Highland & Rt. 13, across Highland from a bar called The Green Lantern, and there was a small grocery store (Foodland I guess) right on the corner where my best friend and I would turn in our pop bottles that we picked up off of the side of Rt. 19 (I think we used to get two cents a bottle). We’d take our newly realized fortune to buy more candy, and on really good days we’d sneak upstairs to the second floor bowling alley where they had a room with a couple of pinball machines off just out of sight of the main counter. There was a minimum age to play back then, and the manager would pretend not to see us as we thought we were sneaking in. One night the place caught fire and we heard stories of flaming bowling balls rolling down Rt. 19 toward Bowling City & Bimbo’s. Many a birthday party was had at both of those.

    A neighbor’s Dad ran the food concession at Bowling City, so we’d hike down the hill sometimes to try and score a free slice, but the thing I remember most was that during the summer, we’d leave the house either on foot or on our bikes, and we’d disappear for the entire day, which was fine with our parents (they loved the break I guess) as long as we weren’t late for supper & got our chores done first. Never a worry or warning about speaking to strangers or keeping in touch, just stay out’a trouble (which we rarely did).

    Hot Shoppes was a maybe once a month splurge for family dinner back then, ‘cuz we ate pretty much every meal at home together. When we moved up to Fort Couch Rd. my Dad used to walk down to the trolley down past the Mall to go to work in Oakland, and Mom would drive to her teaching job at St. Thomas Moore. There was a bus that would take us down Ft.Couch Rd. to the Mall, but we usually just walked and then cut through Gilfillen’s (sp?) field.

    Once in the Mall we’d stop in the Asian gift shop (I believe the name was actually Jade East) to buy candles to burn in our rooms so our parents couldn’t smell us smoking (as if that ever worked). Then it was down past the raindrop fountain that always fascinated me. I think it was a 2-story ring of vertically stretched heavy fishing line that had a steady drip of oil or something running down each line, but it somehow looked to me as if they were all running up instead of down. Never did figure that one out. Then it was off to Woolworth’s, where we used to load up on squirt guns and Yo-Yo’s (when we were in middle school, and which of course would all be confiscated by the vice principal the very next day at school).

    No trip was complete without visiting Spencer’s to browse the poster collection and dirty joke gifts, before stopping at the luncheon counter back in Woolworth’s for a banana split. Always exciting to get to pop a balloon to get the price of your dish. Could be free, could be, oh I dunno, maybe two bits back then.

    I remember the SHV cinema as being two theaters at some point (maybe it always was, I can’t recall) but I do remember that it was easy to hide in between shows. Central A/C wasn’t a thing in our house at the time, nor my bestie’s, so we’d spend summer Saturdays there watching from open til supper just to stay cool. I think I saw Concert for Bangla Desh there about a dozen times, along with Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid (the beginning of our infatuation with Katherine Ross). Speaking of movies, I remember a rare day with Dad when he took me to the Dennis theater over in Mt. Lebo for an all day Clint Eastwood showing (I think it was the “Man with No Name” trilogy). Mom was super pissed that he didn’t get me anything to eat all day but popcorn & candy, but I had a great time.

    The next one is a real challenge for my brain, but I remember us all going to a drive-in, maybe Greentree or over near South Park, and there was a fantastic pizza and hoagie shop near there called Danny’s. Like I said, carry-out and fast food was a maybe once a month or so treat back then, and having to choose between their pizza and a hoagie was absolute torture they were both so good. This is how long ago that was; I think we saw Those Daring Young Men in Their Flying Machines, Chitty, Chitty Bang-Bang, and Marty Allen & a guy named Rossi in something called The Last of the Secret Agents.

    And speaking of food, another treat was when Dad would stop in at The Pioneer Inn, down near the trolley stop on his way home and bring us their cold cut subs home. They weren’t my favorite toasted hoagies, but I remember they put slices of dill pickles on them, and they were delicious. Funny how food tastes and smells stick in your head. That and music. You hear it, smell it, or taste it again from 50 or more years ago and suddenly you’re right back there and then.

    We used to stop in at Eatin’ Park to grab burgers for picnics in South Park, back when they had the elevated electric skytrain, or whatever it was called. When I got a little older I remember friends and I used to take a trolley all of the way into Oakland to visit the Carnegie Natural History Museum (I think that was not long after it changed from Carnegie Tech to CMU). I used to think the Cathedral of Learning was the Empire State Building’s little brother.

    I remember sitting in the right field bleachers at Forbes Field and watching Maz and “Chicken on the Hill Will” Stargill, and of course, Roberto, the most amazing ball player I have ever seen. I can almost hear Bob Prince making the call. 🙂
    I remember hiding my AM radio under my desk in English class, with an ear-piece wire running down my sleeve, so I could listen to the World Series between the Orioles & Pirates, and getting caught when somebody hit a dinger that caused me to yell out. Later, we used to cut school to go to games at Three Rivers, but as many famous and great games as there were there, I always felt bad for the guys who had to play on that damnable Astro Turf.

    Anybody remember the Good Ship Lollypop?

    As an aside, I stopped in SHV while passing through on business a few years back, and man, was that upsetting. Almost forgot about the Stop & Go, under and alongside the pharmacy on the corner of Rt. 19 & Ft. Couch Rd.(now gone). As beer abusing pot smoking teens we used to always seem to find our way there at some point in the evening, to fill up on microwavable burritos and slushies.

    I’ve gotta say, it was certainly a much simpler and kinder time, except of course for hearing about alumni who had died in Viet Nam that week, but as kids we never realized that at that time, we were as free as we were ever going to be for the rest of our lives. Nobody got out’a line in our immediate neighborhood, ‘cuz everybody’s mother was practically your mother, and they all talked to each other seemingly every day on the phone. Boy Scouts, music lessons, Little League, bowling, movies, and skate nights – both on the ice and on wheels. I can never recall being bored, but summer always seemed to be just long enough. Of course the best part was that magical last week of school when everybody was saving up for extra Kennywood tickets, doing every kind of odd job and chore we could for that special day. Even though I left the area decades ago, I still took all of my kids back to visit Kennywood & all of the sights “Dahn Tahn”. Funniest thing was years ago when my kids were young teens, we stopped in South Hills Village to show them “The Mall” that I had often compared their favorite haunt back home to. They always dismissed whatever I said as simply being the rantings of the crazy old man, so their impression was fantastic when they finally got to see it IRL.

    Sadly, the stores were all pretty much the same corporate crap that you’d find in every surviving mall from Maine to Mexico, but they were immediately struck by a couple of things that still make me laugh. First was how big it is, ‘cuz all of the Malls around where they grew up (near D.C.) were all the more modern and size optimized cramped cattle yards that you felt like could have been stuffed between the store fronts of SHV. The second was when they flipped out over how quiet it was, and beyond that, the presence of upholstered furniture in the common areas, where people were reading, playing chess, and just relaxing. Our oldest blurted out that back home, those sofas would be covered with graffiti and cut to shreds in a day, and she probably wasn’t far from right. I later had them get out of the car to walk the path that I used to take to 2nd grade every day, by myself. They lasted about two blocks before threatening my life if I made them continue, but it was gratifying all the same.

    Yeah, not really a fan of the sort of change that I saw on my last trip, but the one thing that absolutely cinched for me that western civilization is nearing its end was when I tried to find a goddamn hoagie shop. First I looked through the Mall, but that was a sad joke. Not that I don’t love me some Mall Teriyaki Chicken, but I can get that in any mall in the U.S. I just wanted a good ol’ toasted chewy roll, Italian meats & cheese wilted lettuce & ‘mater god blessed hoagie!

    I stopped pair of women as they were getting out of their Escalade out in the parking lot, and I kid you not, they had no idea what the hell I was talking about. I had to explain to them what a frigging hoagie was?! And then they suggested that I try some nasty chain joint/ Might have been Olive Garden, I don’t know, but by that time I was holding my hands over my ears and trying to convince myself I was dreaming I was in an episode of the Twilight Zone. I stopped another random older guy and his adult son, and they at least knew of Danny’s, but then said that it had changed hands a long time ago and just wasn’t worth the trip. Beyond that, they had no idea where to find a hoagie anywhere in the area. Undeterred, I stopped two other strangers before finally hitting someone who at least new what the hell a hoagie was. The only reason he did was ‘cuz he worked at a shop in Washington, Pa. that sold them (and he turned out to be the owner). Man, what a shocker. Glad I didn’t ask where to find some good kielbasi. 😉

    No doubt about it, reminiscing is fun, and it makes me feel like I’m 10 years old again. Only problems is, who the hell is that old man in the mirror trying to shave my face? lol

    Thanks for the opportunity to rant and ramble. 🙂

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    Dannys pizza and hoagies is still on 88. Thanks for all the good memories! Just went to my 45th hs reunion feel old too lol

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    Wasn’t Hojo’s (Howard Johnson’s) on the corner before Ground Round? I thought I remembered getting a “clam roll” there.

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    Jimmy:
    If you’re back in town and looking for a toasted hoagie again. Mineo’s in Mt. Lebanon on the corner of Washington Rd and Central Sq.

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